Who IS responsible for editorial at indymedia?
author: E Miesner
Mar 02, 2006 14:50
Would someone who has a clue as to what is going on tell us some names?
For the last several weeks we have been inundated with racist crap, possibly from people who have an agenda of bringing down this website. We need to know who to call, Who is responsible for editorializing? Would you please get this website working again?
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Posted by: Frank at Mar 02, 2006 15:59
E Meisner asks legitimate questions. The threads at
http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/251877.shtml,
http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/251919.shtml, and
http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/251877.shtml (and similar ones) are simply brushed off! Is this democracy or bureaucracy?
Posted by: Ben Seattle at Mar 03, 2006 00:33
As far as I am aware the Seattle Indymedia editorial group consists of two people, whom I will call L and R (since I do not know if they are comfortable with their names being public).
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/seattle-editorial
http://struggle.net/ben
http://MediaWeapon.com
http://NewsRefinery.com/indymedia/proposal.htm
http://NewsRefinery.com/indymedia/mockup.htm
Over the last two years I have been to two of the monthly "open house" meetings of the editorial group near 92nd and Aurora.
The editors can be contacted via the editorial email list. Info about the list (including a link to the public archives) can be found at:
I have sent two emails to this list about the increasing nazi spam and the growing unusability of the site. Neither email has received a reply.
The current editorial group came to power, so to speak, as a result of something of a bureaucratic "coup" about two years ago. No one (other than those who were ousted) objected to this at the time because the current group was more competent than the person(s) they replaced--who tended to be flaky airheads. The politics of the current indymedia group are pretty similar to the previous group: somewhere between liberal and radical and closer to the former than the latter.
The current local Indymedia group figured out how to keep the servers running during the "crisis" two years ago -- when indymedia lost its downtown headquarters as a result of using up their money (ie: that they had been given by wealthy liberals) and finding itself unable to pay the $3,000 a month rent on an expensive drop-in center that was never needed.
The current group kept the site running -- and for that reason I believe the community has given them a certain amount of slack.
However the recent nazi spam and the increasing dysfunction of the site--together with the total lack of responsiveness by the editorial group--has highlighted the basic problem here: the editorial group is small and detached from the militant political movement that gave birth to indymedia and provided the energy that made indymedia what it is.
I believe that _militant_ activists must volunteer to be part of the editorial board--and the current board must drop the barriers which currently exist (ie: a requirement that editorial board members must perform 15 hours of work a week on indymedia-related activity) to greater community participation in running indymedia.
Ben Seattle
Isolated from one another we are easily defeated.
Connected to one another no force on earth can stop us
As an aside -- I put together a proposal for a different set of software and principles for Seattle Indymedia. The current indymedia group liked the proposal -- but we could not find any volunteers to write the needed the software. The proposal can be seen at:
Posted by: ./ at Mar 03, 2006 18:45
What nazi posts are you talking about? The ones that were zionist forgeries attacking The Troll and Zorro? Those dudes may or may not be anti-semitic, but I doubt that they wrote the posts that said that they hated jews because they have small cocks.
Your posts sound equally idiotic. Why should the IMC editors apologize because some troll posted? This is a fucking open forum with limited moderation. Given that anyone can post anonymously, the ratio of noise to sound is relatively low. If you want to reduce it further, please stop the hissy fits.
The IMC process is open -- perhaps too open for its own good. Idiots with an agenda are always trying to hack the process. I can't tell what is worse -- the right wing vomiters or leftists like Ben Seattle. Ben's goals have the aura of idealism, but the reality is that his mission is to turn the IMC into his personal propaganda machine.
Posted by: Ben Seattle at Mar 03, 2006 21:03
the guy above claims that nazis are not using Seattle indymedia. But there have been many posts and comments by them in the recent period. Here is one example:
http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/251911.shtml
http://struggle.net/ben
The struggle to create a channel with a high signal-to-noise ratio is important for the development of a movement with the power to change the world. Some people, like the guy above, belittle this. That's his choice. Others are focused creating something which is real.
Ben Seattle
Posted by: Nihil at Mar 04, 2006 10:25
BEN SEATTLE SNIFFS FARTS
Posted by: Ben Seattle at Mar 04, 2006 10:42
I understand that it is frustrating for you that you want to oppose me but do not have the ability to do so in a way that is political.
http://struggle.net/ben
Ben Seattle
Posted by: NIHIL at Mar 06, 2006 10:54
So you are saying that sniffing farts is a political act?