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Who Are Those Neo-Nazis?

author: KLM
Feb 14, 2006 14:36

Who is involved in recent Neo-Nazi rallies in Olympia and Seattle?

This Neo-Nazi group calls itself The National Socialist Movement. The leader of this particular contingent is named Matthew Ramsey a.k.a. Jim Ramm.

 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=51268

Mr. Ramsey has his own web site that can be easily googled and located, viewer beware, his hate site is purposefully offensive.

Jim Ramm in full regalia:  http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6551/2175/640/untitled19.jpg

Jim Ramm works with Justin Boyer who is dubbed their Seattle Unit Leader:

 http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6551/2175/640/untitled47.jpg

You may have already noted Jim and Justin's contributions elsewhere on Seattle Indy Media.

More Olympia rally photos:

 http://www.groundviewproductions.org/Photography/NSM_Olympia.html

Seattle protest photos and discussion:

 http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/02/backyard-nazis.html

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Posted by: justin boyer seattle unit leader at Feb 14, 2006 16:22

yes your right jim is portland unit leader but i am seattle unit leader i do rally evey chance i gewt you will not stop them ever

Big Deal
Posted by: Jim Ramm at Feb 14, 2006 17:59

That newspaper article is full of lies and creative fiction. If you believe the corporate media then you anti-racists are far more stupid than I imagined.
If think my name is matthew that's fine.

I really don't care what you call me but it is
a good picture!!!

I like the name that one newspaper that called me: "Eugene" Maybe that name will catch on also!

and at the end
Posted by: zorro at Feb 14, 2006 21:35

and at the end it is big zionist money that is financing these, just as they financed adolf hitler too.

and made a joint corporation, havara
for greater israel plans and occupation of palestine.

actually, the zionist entity, israel of today was not created in 1948, it was created by hitler and famous other zionist national socialists that be ben gurion and golda meir.

I hate Dem Joos because I got such a tiny shm
Posted by: I hate Dem Joos because I got such a tiny shm at Feb 15, 2006 09:35

I hate Dem Joos because I got such a tiny shmekele!

.
Posted by: . at Feb 15, 2006 11:27

nazi's are in the country. bush cheney

So Scared!
Posted by: Jim Ramm at Feb 17, 2006 03:54

You have convinced me Sarah! I'm going to start kissing niggers and hugging kikes! Thanks you for changing me!

This article is crap
Posted by: Hardass at Feb 17, 2006 04:00

I want to know where these people live and who their family is and whom they work for so I can fuck up their lives real good. We need more personal infomation not this weakshit. We need to start cracking nazi heads.

Nazi numbers and addresses
Posted by: CREATOR14 at Feb 17, 2006 10:42

That wouldn't be a very good idea. See, that way we'd already know your coming - in fact, you probably wouldn't show up anyway.

In fact, something tells me that you just might.. or at least one of yours, ... yea, that'd be funny, nevermind that... you just might show up.

I don't know about all the other Nazis around here but if you pop up at my door, I'll shoot you in the face.

Don't fight them one on one
Posted by: Seatac at Feb 17, 2006 12:42

Nazi's and White Supremacists like to start up fights when they can. Most of the time they use numbers against you (3 on one, etc.)

You see, most if not all of them work low paying, minimum wage jobs due to their lack of education. So, for practical reasons, they tend to live in larger households (10 or so to each house) and rent, instead of buy them (that way they can bail in a hurry). This affords them both shelter and security.

They also have a tendency to hide their affiliations from their employers and other employees so that's where you get them where it hurts the most. Not with violence but with intelligence.

They're what are called down in the South "Night Riders" i.e. they're afraid to see the light of day. If you really want to get back at them, take the following action:

1. Take their pictures at a rally in their uniforms. Make sure you time/date stamp the picture.
2. Get their license plate number and find out where they work. if necessary have them tailed.
3. Send that photo into their work place and advise them that in 24 hours, it's going to the news media and/or their customers. If you're ignored, let the media have the evidence.

I've seen this done a hundred times and it always works. We were doing this with the Klan in the south long before the Nazi's got the limelight.

Once they're brought into the light, they act just like common cockroaches. They scurry all about attempting to hide again.

To find a complete listing of all hate groups in the immediate area, log on to  http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp If you know of any new ones, contact the Southern Poverty Law Center ASAP.

M
Posted by: National Sarcasm movement rallies in Seattle! at Feb 17, 2006 13:15

Be careful!
You might get shot in the face!
And this Jim-person is smug and sarcastic!
I, for one, am terrified!

Yes, the National Socialist movement has a real future in this country-particularly in Seattle!
(Now, THAT'S sarcasm)!

Have fun at your next 'rally'.
Sorry I missed the last one; I hear you converted thousands to your cause! Ever feel lonely and insignificant, Jim-person? Or do you truly believe anyone cares about you or your (utterly discredited and DEFEATED)'movement?

I'm sure you'll be trolling around for more comments (makes you feel more important)? But I won't bother and will give you the last word...I'm sure you'll put me in my place, etc etc., yawn, yawn...

think about it
Posted by: Joey at Feb 18, 2006 14:32

You anti's have no agenda,.. if it weren't for us, you wouldn't even exist. You're all plain-as-fuckin' day, and angry too.
You all hate us, but in reality, you hate yourselves.

Juden Frei
Posted by: Earth International Socialist Workers' Party at Feb 18, 2006 22:02

I hated the Nazis until I learned they were in favor of global Islam and the killing of the Jew Pig.

Then I realized I was a Nazi... already being a member of ANSWER.

Why dont....
Posted by: NIHIL at Feb 19, 2006 08:11

Why dont both sides stop being whiney little bitches and start eliminating who you feel the need to eliminate, some good would have to come out of it, if only entertainment. Fuck I'm tired of whiney socialist, national or otherwise. Your both too distracted by each other. Its hindering your goals.

duh
Posted by: Edward at Feb 20, 2006 00:45

Yeah, we sort of want to "hinder" the fascists' goals. Sorry if that's not "entertaining" enough (unlike them killing a few of us, apparently).

?
Posted by: me at Feb 20, 2006 02:34

let me get this straight these local nazi's are in favor of global islam?

What a crock!
Posted by: Hippie at Feb 20, 2006 04:50

So you got the name of two of their leaders. I'm sure the fascist pukes don't give a shit anyway. What about the others? Their was nine guys at the Olympia rally and we only know the names of two of them? I want everyones names and addresses. I want to know where they work so I can visit. I want to wreck their lives like the poison they spew out wrecks our community.
So give all the facts not this bullshit!

I hate Dem Joos cause my shmekele is so tiny!
Posted by: zorro at Feb 20, 2006 07:54

I hate Dem Joos cause my shmekele is so tiny!

What im saying is
Posted by: Nihil at Feb 20, 2006 08:39

Why dont the Nazis (national socialist)stop whineing about the future for white childrenand neutralize some jewish bank owners. Why dont the Socialist stop bitching about 8 wannabe nazis neutralize some rich capitalist....Oh wait a minute, its seems they should be after the same person

Jacques Doriot
Posted by: Creator14 at Feb 22, 2006 14:26

I concur.

I have no personal vendetta against anyone at this time - not enough to attack their personal and professional life.

I am an advocate of neo-Fascism because I am a White racialist; what is beneficial to Whites on the whole is the highest virtue of mine.
I've one life to live and my interests have decided to lie solely to the relief efforts of securing a place under the sun for my people.

Think of neo-Fascism like a civil-rights organization for racially conscious white people.

I believe that Neo-Fascism best caters to the perserverance of my race. I wouldn't step on anyone's toes to attain my goals and personal/collective ambitions unless they are a direct obstruction in the road to attain my/our goals.

It's really best to let them speak
Posted by: Fieldlab at Feb 26, 2006 00:07

The trouble with bashing these people, much as I'd like to do it, or finding out where they live, etc. is that it really does not address the problem does it? That's the whole problem with censorship and suppression; they treat the symptom, not the cause. The real problem is that people could cultivate such a deluded view of history and reality that has no basis in fact. In reality, you WANT local nazis to feel free to demonstrate. Not only does it reveal to everyone who is in fact in your community, but you get the invaluable chance to check them out, find out what delusions they currently entertain, find out what experiences or possibly abuse they might have had to make them think this way; and above all, plentiful opportunities to call them on their own bullshit(that is, if you have a better knowledge of history than they think they have).

But if you attack them, then they (and probably ten more who did not come, or 100 more?), will NEVER come again. Good? BUT- they will STILL be Nazis, just more deluded and even more isolated. So- do you want to better your community and risk the embarrassing reality or just punish morons who came from who knows what background?

If nazi poseurs are in my community, I WANT to know so I can talk to them about exactly why they are wrong, or barring convincing them, at least warn other people about their presence, because the problem is not their presence, but that anyone here could be tricked into believing that shit, and I want to know exactly how that happens. I want to fucking study it.

Regarding conspiracies between nazis and police, and the idea that these nazis are not local but part of an oppressive system, well, let's just say that's not the simplest possible explanation, is it? It surely would change the picture; but unfortunately there is some burden of proof required to show that. That involves some real debating.

Handling nazis in this way requires method and restraint. I suppose the luddite reaction is to just throw a brick, as in some 1930's street brawl between stalinists and nazis that today no one remembers or cares about.

Why
Posted by: hmm at Feb 26, 2006 19:32

Why is this a feature. You are helping these cats organizing by giving them an audience. I realize Indymedia is about free speach. But like any news outlet you can choose what's news and what's not news - and this is not news.

You've sold us the rope
Posted by: 88 at Feb 27, 2006 00:44

Which we'll use to string up traitors, pinkos, mudhumping race mixers and the other scum that infest our White Homeland - and this site. We'll continue to post here. Why, you might ask? Because we can.

See you punks in the streets.
For a White Nationalist Future.

Des Moines Nazi headquarters
Posted by: cheeta at Mar 01, 2006 23:25

I just cant believe it, but this justin guy and his unknown girlfriend brittany live in the same complex as me at Bayview meadows apartments in lower building b. It's time to move outa here, I hate the smell of Nazi's.

The Nazis at Seattle IMC
Posted by: Eddie Albert at Mar 02, 2006 00:33

The Nazis at Seattle IMC keep deleting my posts about how that one kid looks like Madonna in those stupid sunglasses. Why these posts only –and not the incoherent 'Nazi pee-pee' spewings of the self-loathing sex degenerates of the American Nazi Slump– defies sound logic or equal application of editorial standards.

Seattle IMC has no heart, only one bitter little conscience, too afraid to pull the plug on the sham this place has become.

Censor the media, media censor.

Jim Ramm
Posted by: Arturo Y. Fuentes at Mar 02, 2006 00:35

Nice cold sore.

Bullshit!
Posted by: I'm the real Jim Ramm Not the last post at Mar 02, 2006 15:19

So the leftists want to censor my free speech rights? Welcome to Russia!!!

That isn't Justin's house
Posted by: Mike Mcfadden at Mar 02, 2006 15:33

I don't think you have the right dwelling. Justin lives in a house and his info is public record. He is also a little bit crazy. I first met him when we were in the Washington State Militia. Our leader John Pitner was soon arrested and the group fell apart. I got out of the militia and Justin got into Aryan Nations. Me and Justin used to go shooting all the time at bullseye rifle range. So if you do go to his house in Des Moines I suggest you wear a bullet proof vest. If you put his back against the wall alot of people are going to die because he just doesn't give a shit anymore.


The last of the white trash...
Posted by: fusyej at Mar 02, 2006 16:49

Des Moines?
Why would anyone visit a trailer in Des Moines?
Sad, sad, sad...

I found the Washington Militia indictment
Posted by: Hairy Hippie at Mar 02, 2006 17:45

The Indictment
of John Pitner, et al.
on charges of conspiracy, making and posession of destructive devices, and posession and transfer of machineguns

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON
AT SEATTLE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Plaintiff,

v.

JOHN IRVIN PITNER, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, JOHN LLOYD KIRK, JUDY CAROL KIRK, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR. TRACY LEE BROWN, a/k/a WILLIAM SMITH, a/k/a WILLIAM STANTON, and THEODORE R. CARTER, JR.,

Defendants.

No. CR 96 500C

INDICTMENT

The Grand Jury charges that:

COUNT I

(Conspiracy to Make and Possess Destructive Devices)

Beginning on or about June 28, 1995, and continuing until July 27, 1996, at Bellingham, within the Western District of Washington and elsewhere, JOHN IRVIN PITNER, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, JOHN LLOYD KIRK, JUDY CAROL KIRK, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., TRACY LEE BROWN, a/k/a WILLIAM SMITH, a/k/a WILLIAM STANTON, and THEODORE R. CARTER, JR., did knowingly and intentionally combine, conspire, and agree with one another and with others unknown to commit an offense against the United States, that is, to make and possess destructive devices in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5861(d) and (f).

OBJECT OF THE CONSPIRACY

l. The object of the conspiracy was that the members of the conspiracy would make and possess destructive devices to be used as weapons, including but not limited to, pipe bombs.

MANNER AND MEANS BY WHICH THE CONSPIRACY WAS CARRIED OUT

The defendants used the following means, among others, to effect the object of the conspiracy:

2. It was part of the conspiracy that JOHN IRVIN PITNER, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER and THEODORE R. CARTER, JR., were members of the Washington State Militia located in Bellingham, Washington.

3. It was part of the conspiracy that JOHN LLOYD KIRK, JUDY CAROL KIRK, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., and TRACY LEE BROWN, were members of a Seattle area group referred to by JOHN IRVIN PITNER as "Freemen."

4. It was part of the conspiracy that one or more of the defendants would meet to discuss the making of destructive devices.

5. It was part of the conspiracy that JOHN IRVIN PITNER taught FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, MARLIN LANE MACK and others to construct a destructive device.

6. It was part of the conspiracy that THEODORE R. CARTER,JR., instructed JOHN IRVIN PITNER, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER and others in the making of destructive devices.

7. It was part of the conspiracy that TRACY LEE BROWN and
JOHN LLOYD KIRK provided two lists of chemicals to be purchased
for the making of destructive devices to be used as weapons.

8. It was part of the conspiracy that defendants MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, JOHN LLOYD KIRK, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., and TRACY LEE BROWN agreed to attend a bomb-making instruction session.

9. It was part of the conspiracy that defendants MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, JOHN LLOYD KIRK, and RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR.I attended a bomb-making instruction session.

OVERT ACTS

In furtherance of the conspiracy and to accomplish the object of the conspiracy, one or more members of the conspiracy committed one or more of the following overt acts within the Western District of Washington and elsewhere:

10. On or about August 23, 1995, JOHN IRVIN PITNER taught FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER, MARLIN LANE MACK and others to construct a bomb using a propane cylinder filled with gunpowder.

11. On or about February 27, 1996, THEODORE R. CARTER, JR., taught JOHN IRVIN PITNER, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER and others to construct destructive devices.

12. On or about May 19, 1996, MARLIN LANE MACK, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., JOHN LLOYD KIRK and TRACY LEE BROWN met at GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL'S residence and discussed making destructive devices.

13. On or about June 14, 1996, JOHN LLOYD KIRK and RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., made and possessed unregistered destructive devices, that is, two pipe bombs.

14. on or about June 15, 1996, JUDY CAROL KIRK and JOHN LLOYD KIRK made and possessed an unregistered destructive device, that is, a pipe bomb.

15. On or about June 15, 1996, MARLIN LANE MACK made and possessed unregistered destructive devices, that is, two pipe bombs.

16. On or about June 27, 1996, TRACY LEE BROWN and JOHN LLOYD KIRK provided two lists of chemicals to be purchased for the making of destructive devices.

17. On or about June 27, 1996, TRACY LEE BROWN provided $100 for the purchase of chemicals for the making of destructive devices.

18. On or about July 6, 1996, MARLIN LANE MACK possessed unregistered destructive devices, that is, two pipe bombs.

19. On a date unknown, JOHN LLOYD KIRK, RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., and TRACY LEE BROWN agreed to meet in Bellingham on July 27, 1996, to instruct MARLIN LANE MACK and GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL in the making of destructive devices.

20. On or about July 27, 1996 JOHN LLOYD KIRK and RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., met in Bellingham to instruct MARLIN LANE MACK,
GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL and FREDERICK BENJAMIN FISHER in the making of destructive devices.

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371.

COUNT II

(Making and Possession of Unregistered Destructive Devices)

On or about June 14, 1996, at Bellingham, within the Western District of Washington, JOHN LLOYD KIRK and RICHARD FRANK BURTON, JR., did knowingly make and possess destructive devices, that is,two pipe bombs, which were not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, as required by Chapter 53, Title 26, United States Code.

The Grand Jury further charges that this offense was committed in furtherance of the conspiracy alleged in Count I of this Indictment.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5861(d) and (f) and 5871; and Title 18, United States Code, Section 2.

COUNT III

(Making and Possession of an Unregistered Destructive Device)

On or about June 15, 1996, at Seattle, within the Western District of Washington, JUDY CAROL KIRK and JOHN LLOYD KIRK did knowingly make and possess a destructive device, that is, one pipe bomb, which was not registered to them in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, as required by Chapter 53,Title 26, United States Code.

The Grand Jury further charges that this offense was committed in furtherance of the conspiracy alleged in Count I of this Indictment.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5861(d) and (f) and 5871; and Title 18, United States Code, Section 2.

COUNT IV

(Making and Possession of Unregistered Destructive Devices)

On or about June 15, 1996, at Bellingham, within the Western District of Washington, MARLIN LANE MACK did knowingly make and possess destructive devices, that is, two pipe bombs, which were not registered to him in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, as required by Chapter 53, Title 26, United States Code.

The Grand Jury further charges that this offense was committed in furtherance of the conspiracy alleged in Count I of this Indictment.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5861(d) and (f) and 5871.

COUNT V

(Making and Possession of Unregistered Destructive Devices)

On or about July 6, 1996, at Bellingham, within the Western District of Washington, MARLIN LANE MACK did knowingly make and possess destructive devices, that is, two pipe bombs, which were not registered to him in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, as required by Chapter 53, Title 26, United States Code.

The Grand Jury further charges that this offense was committed in furtherance of the conspiracy alleged in Count I of this Indictment.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Sections 5861(d) and (f) and 5871.

COUNT VI

(Possession and Transfer of Machineguns)

On or about July 11, 1996, at Bellingham, within the Western District of Washington, GARY MARVIN KUEHNOEL did knowingly possess and transfer two machineguns, that is, one (1) Olympic Arms (SGW), model CAR-AR, caliber .223 rifle, serial number Z4564; and one (1) Colt AR-15 A2, model HBAR SPORTER, caliber .223 rifle,serial number SP229788.

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code,Sections 922(o) and 924(a)(2).

A TRUE BILL:
DATED: Aug. 7, 1996

[signatures]

FOREPERSON

KATRINA C. PFLAUMER
United States Attorney

WILLIAM H. REDKEN R.
Assistant United States Attorney

SUSAN B. DOHRMANN
Assistant United States Attorney

come to your door?
Posted by: oh puleeze at Mar 03, 2006 12:06

.50 cal solution
know what i mean?

des moines
Posted by: justin at Mar 03, 2006 22:03

so you thin you know wear i live well i dare you to come by i dont give a fuck i hope you have nice night 88

A NEW MILITIA
Posted by: Nihil at Mar 04, 2006 10:13

We reall need a new militia, to rpotect against capitalist and socialist scum. Then there could better activitys to channel rage into rather than nazism and wankoff liberal pinko socialism

Joining the militia is not just your right its your duty.

Updates
Posted by: anonanon at Mar 26, 2006 10:58

A good blog for reporting on right wing and racist activities is written here in Seattle: Orcinus  http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

National Socialist Movement is conducting regular rallies throughout the US, they are recruiting. They have a permit to rally on our state capitol steps July 3 2-4 pm, national call is out to white supremacists to attend.



Problems we at NSM encounter
Posted by: Commander MATTHEW RAMSEY at May 28, 2007 22:34

Problems we frequently encounter !
Some skinheads feel that they are too tight for anal sex and can’t seem to relax enough. I am sorry to say that you may never be able to relax enough to enjoy anal - whether you are involved in White Power or not; it simply may not be your thing.



However, if you really want to try it, and lets face it , most skinheads do - buy a small (finger size) dildo. Lie on your side and gently insert the well lubricated dildo with constant gentle pressure. Again, it is important to wait until you feel your sphincters relax. Once it is in, leave it there and wait until it feels comfortable. You can think of Hitler at this time to distract you from any pain or discomfort you might be experiencing.



With time and practice , howerver, your level of comfort should dramatically improve as you gradually learn to enjoy the sensation of penetration and anal stimulation. Once you can easily insert the small dildo, try the next larger size until you gradually work up to something approximating the girth of a normal penis or that mega Nazi Anal Intruder you’ve been dreaming about.

REMEMBER; YOU CAN DO THIS WITH YOUR BOOTS ON OR OFF !!! If all goes well, you’re ready for your partner. Use the small dildo as part of foreplay to "pre-stretch" your sphincters. For Nazis, it can be a hot experience for you and your partner as you use the dildo to get ready. When your muscles are suitably relaxed you can safely sit down on him and HAIL THE NEW DAWN so to speak ! OOOH ! 14 Orgasmic moans !!!

Just remember- AND IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU ARE IN THE KLAN OR ARE JUST AN ORDINARY SKINHEAD; You can’t always take everything just because you want too! Some National Socialists (and some klan members) will be too large to fit no matter how hard you try.



SO BE GENTLE !! AND REMEMBER - WE ARE RECLAIMING ANAL SEX FROM THE GAY COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE DEGENERERATED THE NOBILITY OF WHITE RACIALLY PURE LOVE BETWEEN COMRADES. ENOUGH ! RECLAIM TRUE LOVE NOW !